MIG Equipment Facts. Part
There were decades of weld process control ignorance and weld sales influence,
and then they introduced robots and pulsed MIG.
Ed. I am reading pulsed MIG literature from the different weld equipment manufacturers.
The different wave forms and pulsed MIG arcs sound fascinating and of course many
welding / application promises are made. My question is this. How much should
I rely on the pulsed MIG data that I am reading?
Answer: If you were reading about pulsed MIG MIG equipment made before 2006, the
information on the performance and benefits of this weld equipment may be as reliable as what you get on a used
car lot, or as reliable as the above headlines provided in 2006 by the world's
largest newspaper, USA Today.
A WELD EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER CANNOT MAKE IT'S SOPHISTICATED, ELECTRONIC
MIG EQUIPMENT, WELD COMMON APPLICATIONS BETTER THAN IT'S LOWER COST, MORE DURABLE
CV MIG EQUIPMENT, THE EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER MAY CREATE A SALES MARKETING STRATEGY
IN WHICH THEY CONFUSE THE POTENTIAL MIG WELD EQUIPMENT CUSTOMERS WITH BOVINE FECAL
EXAMINE THE UNIQUE LANGUAGE THIS GENERATION OF WELD EQUIPMENT
DESIGNERS AND MARKETING PERSONNEL USE TO DESCRIBE THEIR ELECTRONIC MIG EQUIPMENT.
Folks, for only $12999, this unique, new
pulsed MIG power source provides;
FOZZY DE-WOOZZY PULSED.
 SOFT AND HARD PULSED.
 TRIPLE PULSE ON PULSE.
 AC ON TOP OF DC PULSED.
DYNAMIC RESPONSE PULSED.
 ETHERNET CONTROLLED PULSED.
 4 MILLION WAVEFORMS.
 PALM PILOT
PULSED CONTROL, (IN THREE DIFFERENT COLORS).
 REMOTE CONTROL FOR THE PULSED
A little weld reality. The
optimum spray fillet on the right, was made from a simple, two control, CV, $2500,
MIG power source. The inferior pulsed weld on the left, was made with the same
wire feed rate and a $12,000 pulsed power source.
Point from Ed's MIG process Control Training CD program
only problem with a CV. $2000 - $3000 MIG power source, is minimal profits are generated
for both the weld equipment manufacturers and the weld distributors.
WELD BENEFITS OF ELECTRONIC BELLS AND WHISTLES ON PULSED MIG EQUIPMENT CAN SOUND
IMPRESSIVE TO WELD SHOP MANAGEMENT AND PERSONNEL THAT HAVE NO OWNERSHIP OF THE
EQUIPMENT ON THE WELD SHOP FLOOR.
Twenty pus years after its introduction, we are now seeing one or two reasonably
priced pulsed power sources that can provide minimal yet unnecessary weld benefits
for carbon steels and stainless MIG applications.
Note: In the future, there are three applications that will see real world weld benefits from pulsed, automated weld cladding, automated 5G pipe welds and aluminum applications
I checked the pulsed equipment sold in the USA and I still find that the most
expensive pulsed equipment available to weld carbon and alloy steels still offers minimal
benefits in contrast to the MIG equipment that costs 300% less
A PRIMARY PROBLEM FOR MANY WELD DECISION MAKERS IS SORTING OUT WHICH MIG EQUIPMENT
PROVIDES WELD BENEFITS AND WHICH EQUIPMENT DOES NOT.
For those managers, engineers and technicians that would rather optimize MIG and
flux cored weld quality and productivity from low cost MIG equipment, all you
need is the information in Ed's weld books and process control CD training resources.
the best MIG power source for
all position E71T-1 gas shielded, flux cored
contrast to Inverters, Multi-process MIG machines and Pulsed
that regular, low cost, CV, MIG power source will
always provide superior, all
position,"gas shielded flux cored welds".
A WISE MANAGER LEARNS FROM THE
WELD MANUFACTURING PAST
WITHOUT QUESTION, THE WORST MIG EQUIPMENT SOLD
IN AMERICA CAME FROM PANASONIC AND MOTOMAN:
friend of mine is in charge of Robots at one the largest Honda supply plants in
the USA. He had over 200 robots all struggling with Panasonic induced weld issues. He will attest that the < 2004 Panasonic pulsed MIG weld equipment
represented some of the most illogical, inconsistent, erratic weld equipment he
has ever had to work with.
In the many plants that I was asked to resolve
robot weld issues, I used to squirm when I saw the Panasonic pulsed MIG equipment,
as I knew that in many cases the weld issues in the plants would not be optimized till the weld equipment was replaced.
the Panasonic MIG equipment is popular on Panasonic robots sold in North America,
I thought I would spend some time evaluating what the Panasonic Pana Star AA2
- AA11- 350 and the HM 500 power sources had to offer. The following is a description
of a verbal event that took place at an AWS weld show. The conversation is not
word for word, however it represents the true content of the discussion.
Panasonic sales rep provides his sales pitch at the AWS show, "Ed
this dip pulsed power source is really unique. The power source provides
"artificial intelligence". He continues.
"This power source
is constantly analyzing the pulsed arc output weld data and making weld parameter
corrections for the arc. In contrast to most other MIG equipment, this pulsed
power source provides superior control of the weld penetration". The
just out of college sales rep continues, "Ed, you may not be aware that with
the earth quakes in Japan, " weld penetration in that country is now a prime
The Panasonic sales rep was in his twenties and keen
to provide me with weld advice and startling revelations about Japanese weld penetration
issues. If you are new to this web site please keep in mind, I have worked with
the MIG process for 40 plus years and with the pulsed process close to 25 years.
When I first started evaluating pulsed equipment the Panasonic rep was approx.
three years old, this did did not stop this rep from trying to educate me on the
subject of welding.
The Panasonic rep then told me "that one of the
things that effects pulsed weld penetration is when the pulsed arc length changes,
as the arc length is shortened the pulsed drop may not be allowed to form without
a short circuit interruption, this therefore effects the pulsed arc stability
and consistency of the weld fusion attained" This poor sales rep did not
realize that the problem he described had been a major issue with his equipment
since it was introduced into the USA. He also did not realize that his artificial
intelligent weld equipment that sat proudly on display at the weld show would
reveal that it still could not provide a consistent pulsed weld arc especially
on small weld cycle times.
WHY WOULD ANY WELD SHOP ACCEPT A MIG WELD
POWER SOURCE THAT;
PROVIDES INCONSISTENT, ERRATIC POOR WELD TRANSFER PERFORMANCE?
GENERATES CONFUSION FOR THE USER,
[C] COSTS 100 - 300% MORE?
DIFFICULT TO REPAIR?
[E] HAS A MUCH SHORTER LIFE?
YOU HAVE SPENT MORE THAN 20 MINUTES AT THIS SITE YOU
KNOW THE ANSWERS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, ITS FRED ON THE RIGHT.
the last four decades in ten different countries I have set up more than a thousand
different MIG weld applications with focus always on attaining optimum, constant
weld fusion and weld profiles that would always be called optimum. The MIG welds
I have always produced would be made with traditional, MIG equipment that typically
would cost 25% of the price of the Panasonic pulsed equipment.
PANASONIC AND THE POOR WELD GRAPH: This
oscilloscope chart shows voltage (red) and weld current
(black) fluctuations taken by a frustrated Canadian weld engineer. He was frustrated
because his Panasonic MIG equipment lacked the ability to produce two parts with
the same weld appearance and fusion. The pulsed equipment was a Panasonic AA 11-
Note on the chart. The dramatic swings of unstable prime weld parameters,
with both volts and amps frequently hitting zero, this was too common an occurrence
with many pulsed power sources built up to 2006.
MIG welds I produced in 1960 and the MIG welds I will produce for companies in 2015 with
with the little changed, traditional, low cost, durable, CV. MIG equipment, could pass
with process expertise, any global FILLET weld code requirement.
For over ninety nine percent of conventional manual and robot MIG welds
on carbon or low alloy steel applications > 4 mm, you simply do not require a sol called Intelligent
power source that provides a so called special ~~~Wave Form or unique Ripples~~~.
MIG equipment I have always utilized, was not electronically "intelligent",
however when I provided weld process control training to tthe weld decision makers, you could assume that at the weld process control
course completion, the weld personnel were "Process
Intelligent" . These people were nd trained to make optimum MIG or Flux Cored welds with out playing around with
controls and using unsophisticated MIG equipment.
A PANASONIC POWER SOURCE VERSUS MUCH LOWER COST, MORE DURABLE CV MIG EQUIPMENT:
traditional MIG equipment I have utilized for 50 pluse years did have an unusual 50 year
old electrical attribute common to all CV equipment. During the weld the CV MIG
power source thanks to an optimum slope out put, instantly responds and makes a controlled current correction for
the wire stick-out changes, (arc length variations).
with the left weld output oscilloscope, the traditional, lower cost CV, weld Amp - Volt stability, in contrast to the right graph where the same weld wire and similar weld parameters were used with the very electronic Panasonic AA 11-350.
purchasing your next power source, spend
a little time on the subject of weld
asked for his opinion on weld fusion, and spray
versus pulsed, Albert might
have said the following.
energy attainable from CV spray transfer is of course logical for consistent
and constant weld fusion. Wheras the inconsistent weld energy from the peak to back ground current of a pulsed power source will of course on certain applications lead to inconsistent weld fusion.".
2006 ARC LENGTH SENSITIVITY FACT:
In contrast to the pulsed mode in which one
weld droplet per pulse cascades hopefully undisturbed across an arc gap, the traditional
MIG spray weld transfer is "less sensitive to arc length variations"
The simple reason for this is the spray transfer stream and does not require the
formation of individual weld droplets to achieve optimum weld transfer.
In the pulsed
mode, as the pulsed arc length shortens, the wire tip to work distance decreases
and the pulsed weld drop will be eventually be disrupted as its in contact with
both the positive wire and negative weld. This short circuit arc disruption can
reduce the consistency of both the pulsed weld droplet transfer and weld fusion
potential. Remember also this process spends fifty percent of it's time in a low
back ground current of less than 80 amps. In contrast with traditional spray transfer,
an arc length reduction has minimal impact on the delivery of the more consistent
energy, spray transfer weld stream. With carbon steel welds particularly on metals
> 5 mm when you want optimum and consistent weld fusion you figure out what
process you should be using.
2006 NOTE: WITH CARBON STEELS AND HIGH DEPOSITION MIG WELDS DEPOSITED OVER
12 LB/HR, VIEW THE GREATER CONSISTENCY OF THE WELD TRANSFER AS EVIDENT IN THE
SPRAY WELD SURFACE ON LEFT, VERSUS A 2006 PULSED WELD SHOWN ON RIGHT. PART OF
THIS PROBLEM IS WITH THE PULSED WE HAVE THE INCONSISTENCY OF THE TRANSFER AND
INSUFFICIENT CURRENT FOR THE WELD MASS:
energy and configuration of a traditional MIG spray transfer plasma can also be
superior to the pulsed MIG plasma reference the potential weld fusion profiles
(side wall fusion) attained.
I did not get into a MIG arc plasma physics
characteristic comparison with the Panasonic rep, as I know it would have been
time wasted, any way he was to busy giving me welding advice.
I however I did ask the Panasonic rep a simple question
on the pulsed wire feed range. I said "does your intelligent power source
provide a practical measurable benefit like extending the traditional MIG spray
transfer wire feed range so that we can weld faster with a robot"?
The Panasonic rep instantly developed the infamous
"weld glazed look", paused a few seconds, then
replied. He stated he was not qualified to provide an answer. This was the first
real thing he said to me after thirty minutes of verbal diarrhea.
2006 and 2007 you too may be lucky enough to have discussions with some rep that
wants to discus the attributes of pulsed MIG equipment artificial intelligence,
yet it's likely this same individual will not know the weld deposition rate of
a spray MIG weld made with an 045 wire at set at 450 ipm.
Panasonic pulsed verbage again proves that when it comes to welding, "seeing
the actual weld, is always mightier than the salesman's word".
A few years earlier, at my first introduction to the Panasonic
pulsed power source. I had a two hour lesson from another Panasonic rep that must
have had least twelve months weld experience. This rep told me what he thought
was the unique electronic benefits in his companies pulsed power source. In that
time period the Panasonic power source was designed (or
was it marketing strategy} to minimize the so called "ripple weld current
output". Now keep in mind in that time for 30 plus years I had MIG welded
with traditional CV weld equipment, yet with all the trillions of ripples
I must have produced I have never produced a bad MIG weld or a weld with spatter
issues. So you can imagine my surprise when I heard from Panasonic about the bad
influence of the Panasonic "ripple output" .
TO ~~~RIPPLE~~~ OR NOT TO RIPPLE,
A PANASONIC WELD QUESTION?
COMPARE THE "RIPLESS" PANASONIC POWER SOURCE
WITH THE MILLER DELTAWELD PERFORMANCE.
the time of the Panasonic ripless power out put, I compared the rippless Panasonic
power against a Miller DeltaWeld, which was a traditional, lower cost CV power source.
the way as this Panasonic was talking about ripples anyone could have put an oscilloscope
on the Panasonic power source and see something that was much more of a concern than ripples.
The Panasonic power source voltage (red) and current (black) was all over the
place. The bottom line the standard, lower cost CV Miller power source (as shown above) proved
to provide superior arc stability, more consistent weld energy and welds on >
0.125 that have a superior appearance.
years later at another AWS show, I noted that the latest and greatest Panasonic
Power source was using an 0.045 (1.2 mm) wire.
I asked the welder doing
the Panasonic demo to set the wire at the traditional high spray transfer setting
of 500 in./min. I noted while he was welding that the resulting pulsed arc plasma
zone was narrow, agitated and the plasma was intense. The resulting pulsed weld
had a poor convex profile that likely would have resulted in inconsistent side
wall fusion. The bottom line. For the last two decades, when welding carbon steels
I have been trying to find real world, practical, measurable welding benefits
from the complex costly Panasonic power source and from other similar pulsed equipment,
here today in 2005. I am still looking.
OF PULSED WAVE FORMS LATER AND THE SOPHISTICATED ELECTRONIC POWER SOURCES THAT
MAKE THOUSANDS OF WELD DECISIONS PER SECOND AND WHAT DOES THE WELDING INDUSTRY
END UP DISCUSSING FOR IT'S STEEL WELDS?
DE WUZZZY / RIPPLESS / POWER
THE WAVES / DIP-DE - PULSE / PULSE ON PULSED ON PULSE. PULSE ON 1/2 A BLOODY PULSED, ARTIFICIALLY INTELLIGENT, REMOTE WIRELESS CONTROLLED FROM YOUR CELL PHONE OR COMPUTERIZED
PULSED WELDING EQUIPMENT.
I CRINGE AT THE THOUGHT OF WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS
FOR AN INDUSTRY THAT HAS BEEN SUCKED IN BY SO MUCH GIBBERISH.
Have you heard that it's impossible to modify Panasonic robot settings to program
weld parameters in WFS? which is something you can do with Motoman or ABB robots. Further, since even their newer tach-drive units they don't have any
WFS readout or setting, you still can't calibrate the robot in WFS (without a
separate device). I've exchanged a number of very in-depth e-mails with Panasonic
on these two closely-related issues during the last 10 months. Currently Panasonic
seems incapable of grasping the facts that calibrating in AMPS inherently introduces
inaccuracy and cell-to-cell variations that strongly inhibit establishing a continuous
improvement effort in high-level optimizing of parameters. Programming in AMPS
lies to the programmer about what he's adjusting, masks the whole balance of joint-fill-volume
vs. travel speed, and makes it more difficult to teach MIG process troubleshooting
and process improvement to anyone.
Going far beyond my professional
duty in attempting to assist Panasonic, I have presented several arguments of
ironclad logic which clearly point out why WFS calibration would be far more accurate,
than AMPS calibration. So far, they still don't get it. And
with Panasonic being so devoid of in-depth process expertise in North America, I'm certainly not holding my breath. So far, the only weld engineers I've met
who like PFA welding systems are either self-proclaimed welding experts with no
degree in the field, or OSU welding engineers who typically wet behind the ears
and are incompetent in weld process expertise. Best
Ed's CD Process Control Training Program
Reply. If you have time to
waste and want unnecessary weld complexity in your world, consider a Panasonic
robot cell. Brian
I brought up the WF and amp issue with Panasonic in the early nineties, unfortunately, when it comes to MIG weld process controls the people I dealt with at Panasonic
were sadly lacking expertise on the subject.
may be interested in a recent experience I had with Panasonic. In January 2006
I was asked to reset the Panasonic robot programs for a company in PA. The Panasonic
robots were approx. 12 months old. At this company the touch sensing and through
the arc tracking was not working correctly and as usual the pulsed process was
not suited to the steel application. I switched the pulsed power source over to
the spray transfer mode and with the Panasonic 500 pulsed equipment. To attain
270 amps I had to set 370 amps in the Panasonic robot pendant. By the way I figured
for every hour it took for the programmer to make changes with the Panasonic weld
and robot data, I could have done the same thing in 15 minutes with an ABB robot.
There is only one way to control a MIG weld and that is through control of the
TO FURTHER SCREW UP THEIR CONFUSED CUSTOMERS AND MAKE LIFE MORE COMPLEX FOR WELD SHOPS,
PANASONIC WAS MORE THAN UP FOR THAT TASK?
it's sophisticated pulsed MIG equipment, Panasonic is proud to claim it provides
"Four Million Wave Forms". A MIG Weld Reality. Irrespective of the pulsed or traditional MIG transfer weld
modes utilized, once the wire size is selected, optimum welds can be made on every
carbon steel, alloy steel and stainless application with "Four simple weld settings".
THE PROBLEM IN MANY WELD SHOPS IS THE WELD PERSONNEL DONT KNOW THOSE FOUR OPTIMUM WELD SETTINGS, THEY ARE IN MY Books
& Process Control - Best Practice TRAINING RESOURCES.
"Pana Star AA2" Panasonic
increases the power source CPU'S for faster arc response from this artificial
intelligent power source. Panasonic claims this Fuzzy logic, MIG power source
offers electronic wonders. The weld reality, is the welds this power source produces
are inferior to short circuit or spray transfer welds made from a traditional
CV. MIG power source that costs 50 to 70% less.
weld logic and European and USA
logic are simply not the same.
weld shops considering the purchase of a robot, remember at the end of the day
it's not about the robot or
MIG weld equipment electronics, it's about the
weld quality and productivity produced.
those companies that do low to medium volume, ever changing steel / stainless
weld applications, give serious consideration to the following;
 When you examine each robot manufacture's product don't get caught up with
the bells and whistles and fancy electronic pulsed MIG power source with it's
4 million wave forms. Stay focussed on the MIG power source weld output and communication
with the robot, the weld arc consistency at high and low wire feed rates and don't
forget the equipment durability.
 With the robot program, examine
the length of time required to both program a part and to make weld changes to
 With the robot program, examine the ease in which wire
feed, voltage or pulsed parameter changes are made.
Examine the logic in the robot's weld program and the calibration between pendant
and power source weld data.
Examine the robot's automated tool center point TCP capability and repeatability.
 Examine the robot's touch sense and through the arc tracking capability.
 Examine the robot weld weave program, especially the logic of the
 Examine the accuracy and repeatability of the robot with
 Examine the complexity of programming
the robot to work with secondary equipment such as the positioner, a camera or
torch cleaning stations.
 Examine the robot instruction literature,
the technical support and service capability.
BECAUSE THE ROBOT YOU ARE CONSIDERING SEEMS TO WORK WELL IN AN AUTO PLANT, THAT
THIS IS A LOCATION WHERE THEY THEY MAY RARELY CHANGE THE WELD PROGRAMS AND THIS
IS AN ENVIRONMENT THAT TOO OFTEN HAS MINIMAL WELD EXPECTATIONS.
IN A JOB
SHOP, CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE SPEED AND SIMPLICITY REQUIRED TO
PROGRAM DIFFERENT PARTS. ALSO THE ROBOT TOUCH SENSE AND WELD TRACKING CAPABILITY
IS A CRITICAL FEATURE FOR MANY APPLICATIONS.
NOTE: IT TYPICALLY TAKES 30 TO 50% MORE TIME TO PROGRAM A JAPANESE ROBOT THAN IT DOES TO PROGRAM AN ABB SWEDISH ROBOT.
As I am impressed with weld logic, ease of use and performance.
My first choice for a robot
would always be ABB.
I KNOW THAT LINDE
- (UNION CARBIDE)
THE WORLD'S BEST CV MIG WELD EQUIPMENT.
VI 252 A LOGICAL, DURABLE
CV MIG WELD UNIT.
1980s. As with most Union Carbide - Linde equipment, the Linde VI 252 MIG power source and two large size rolls wire feed unit was and still is a gem for and weld shop weld gage to 6 mm. This is the MIG unit that the weld shop could expect
to last for at least two decades without problems. This unit had an excellent Slope Out put, provided
great short circuit and spray welds. This power source was considered a medium
size MIG unit, providing 250 to 300 amps. The wire feed was also a work hors with it's permanent MAG motor and it's two over sized drive rolls. The wire tension and drive on this unit developed over two decades ago is better than any four drive roll units
sold in 2015.
WHO CAN GET PAST WELD EQUIPMENT SALESMANSHIP AND PROVIDE THEIR EMPLOYEES WITH
WELD PROCESS TRAINING CAN PURCHASE TRADITIONAL, LOW COST MIG EQUIPMENT AND PRODUCE
CARBON STEEL / STAINLESS MIG WELDS THAT WILL MEET THE MOST STRINGENT, GLOBAL WELD
Mail from firstname.lastname@example.org
MY GOD ITS REFRESHING TO HEAR SOMEONE TALK STRAIGHT ABOUT MY FAVORITE
SUBJECT. I USED TO FABRICATE RACE CAR CHASSIS AND IN MY QUEST FOR THE ULTIMATE
MIG MACHINE I SELECTED THE MILLER MAXTRON AND THE INVISION.
I HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED WITH BOTH POWER SOURCES AND COULD NEVER GET ANYTHING
NICE GOING ON IN THE PULSED MODES.MY OLD MILLERS WERE SO UNBREAKABLE AND ALWAYS
PROVIDED GREAT WELDS. ALL YOU HAVE SAID ABOUT THE NEW ELECTRONIC, MIG EQUIPMENT
JUNK, I HAVE EXPERIENCED.
REGARDS AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. NICK.
would not have a variety of substandard weld equipment
if we had good weld management.
THE NINETEEN EIGHTIES, THE WORLD'S MOST SUCCESSFUL AUTO / TRUCK FRAME MANUFACTURER
WAS COMPANY LOCATED IN MILWAUKEE, THE COMPANY WAS CALLED "A.O. SMITH".
OUT MAKING CAR FRAMES FOR CADILAC IN 1904. IN 1990s A.O.SMITH WAS THE ONLY GLOBAL
CORPORATION TO ESTABLISH ROBOT MULTI-PLANT WELD BEST PRACTICES AND ALSO PROVIDE
EFFECTIVE ROBOT PROCESS CONTROLS. THE AO SMITH DAILY ROBOT WELD REWORK FOR THE
CAR AND TRUCK FRAMES WAS MINUSCULE AND IN CONTRAST TO MANY ROBOT COMPANIES WELDING
IN 2008, THEIR ROBOT MIG PRODUCTION WAS BOTH OPTIMUM AND CONSISTENT.
North America during the mid 1990's, A.O.Smith had more than 1200 ABB robots which
were utilized mostly with Miller Delta Weld 450 equipment and 0.045 (1.2 mm) MIG
wires. The majority of the welds produced were made with the spray transfer mode
at weld deposition rates that averaged 11 - 14 lb/hr.
IN 2015. THE MILLER CV DELTA WELD 450 IS STILL THE WORLD'S BEST PERFORMING AND MOST COST EFFECTIVE
CV MIG POWER SOURCE.
After welding frames for 93 years, around 1997, A. O. SMITH was purchased by Tower Automotive.
I have been in many Tower plants, and my experience led me to sincerely believe that the "HANDS OFF, Tower corporate engineers and managers never fully comprehended or appreciated the weld process control expertise that A.O. Smith utilized in the management of its robot weld cells.
Today thanks to typical hands off management that
you will find at companies like Tower Automotive and the lawyers we call politicians
in Washington, through no fault of their own, American workers are fast loosing
their future ability to earn a de
IT'S SAD IN THIS APATHETIC MANUFACTURING
ENVIRONMENT THAT AN AMERICAN MANUFACTURING GIANT LIKE TOWER ADDED TO AMERICA'S
FUTURE POTENTIAL EMPLOYMENT ISSUES THROUGH POOR MANAGEMENT.
A PROUD 90 YEAR OLD COMPANY, AND IN LESS THAN 90 MONTHS BROUGHT THEM TO CHAPTER
MUCH FOR AMERICAN WELD ENGINEERIG - MANUFACTURING PROGRESS AND EVOLUTION:
IN 2008 THERE WAS NOT ONE GLOBAL AUTO / TRUCK
FRAME PLANT OR SUPPLIER THAT HAS COME CLOSE TO
ATTAINING THE SAME OPTIMUM DAILY ROBOT WELD PRODUCTION AND QUALITY ACHIEVED BY
A.O.SMITH IN 1988.
BEST WELD PRACTICES AND WELD PROCESS CONTROLS: 50 PLUS YEARS
AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT OF MIG EQUIPMENT, THERE IS LESS THAN A HANDFUL OF COMPANIES
IN NORTH AMERICA THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED MULTI-PLANT MANUAL / ROBOT BEST MIG WELD
WELD COSTS: I BELIEVE THERE ARE LESS THAN 100 COMPANIES IN NORTH AMERICA THAT
ACTUALLY KNOW THE REAL COST OF A MIG
WELD PRODUCED ON THEIR WELDED PARTS.
THAT'S REQUIRED FOR MANUAL BEST WELD PRACTICES, WELD COST CONTROLS AND ROBOT PROCESS
CONTROLS IS FOR MANUFACTURING MANAGEMENT AND ENGINEERS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THE WELD DECISIONS AND EQUIPMENT IN THEIR PLANTS. TRY THESE RESOURCES.
PROCESS OWNERSHIP DOES NOT START WITH:
Robot management and engineers who are not responsible for the processes they
Managers and engineers who cannot build steel parts and hold 1 mm tolerances.
 Designers who don't understand the weld process limitations on their
 Engineers who produce poor weld fixtures.
engineers and technicians who don't seek the necessary MIG process control education
Lets face it, you don't have to look too far
today in a manufacturing plant to find a management or engineers that lacks weld
equipment or weld process control "depth". . and in any auto / truck
plant, it would not take more than two minutes to find an individual that believes
they are an expert on a subject as they have 12 months experience.
has been around for fifty plus years, it has two weld controls. If you are a manger
or engineer who cannot understand those controls, you now know what you have to
Miller Delta Weld 450.
I believe that for the last few decades. the world's most cost effective, best performing MIG power source has been the Miller Delta Weld 450.
2005: When you decide to evaluate a pulsed MIG power source for welding carbon steel
and stainless welds, you should compare the pulsed weld results you attain with the the weld resulats from an
optimum, CV MIG power source that will cost much less and last much longer..
many different manufacturing plants in different countries, for close to two decades,
I religiously recommended the purchase of the world's best traditional MIG power
source, the Miller Delta Weld 450, and never got a thank you note from the folks at Miller.
I took the Delta Weld equipment to Thailand
to MIG and flux cored weld 270 ksi armored plate on USA made army tanks. While
Miller equipment was not sold in Spain, I encouraged a Spanish auto parts supply
company, Viza (Citroen BMW car seats) to purchase the Miller Delta Weld 450 equipment for it's new robot
lines. The bottom line is I recommended the Delta Weld equipment for hundreds of manual / robot applications
across the USA and Canada and in many countries.
The Delta Weld was extremely well built and unique in that it provided an optimum slope parameter
output for both short circuit and spray transfer modes. This durable power source also provided excellent arc starting characteristics.
MIG arc starts used to be a common issue especially with Lincoln's MIG equipment.
The bottom line the Delta Weld was a durable, cost affective work horse for manual
MIG welding and a logical power source to put on robots for all steel welds.
ENGINEERS AT WELD EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURES WHO TYPICALLY KNOW LITTLE
ABOUT ARC PHYSICS AND WELD REQUIREMENTS, OR OPTIMUM WELD DATA CAN SCREW UP GOOD
MIG WELDING EQUIPMENT.
MILLER, PLEASE TRY NOT TO screw up thAT Delta Weld. Around
1998 or 1999, some individual at Miller, possibly a new electronic engineer
or an inexperienced product manager, decided some cost cutting changes could be made
to this power source. The Delta Weld changes had a negative impact on the slope
output effecting the weld equipment performance. I believe that the person who
made the changes probably did not know what the optimum current / wire feed relationship
is for the common MIG wires and weld transfer modes, or what the ideal weld current,
wire feed relationship is for welding a simple 1/4 fillet with an 0.045 wire. Anyway who
ever got their hands on the Delta Weld took a weld giant and created a mundane
product readily available at the competition.
COKE SCREWED UP COKE & BOEING MANAGEMENT SCREWED UP BOEING. THE MILLER MANAGEMENT ALLOWED THEIR ENGINEERS TO REDUCE THE
PERFORMANCE OF THE WORLD'S BEST MIG POWER SOURCE, THE 450 DELTA WELD.
During 1999, I provided weld management consulting and
training services to a company called Omniquip. This company made SkyTraks. At
the time Sky Trak used Lincoln MIG equipment. I wanted to improve the welds and the equipment on the shop floor so I has Ominiquip ordered 4 Miller Delta
Weld 450 power sources for the companies weld training facility.
the Delta Weld had an excellant slope output and would last for one to two decades without equipment or performance problems. However with these new Delta Weld units, In the next six months this Miller equipment resulted in;
[a] Numerous "wire feed" electronic issues
with 3 of the 4 new power sources.
[b] In contrast to the traditional
Delta Weld power source, these 1999, 450 power sources, revealed that the weld voltage and
current per/wire feed rate (slope output) had been altered. The result was a negative
influence on weld fusion potential and on the power source performance.
[c] For low current MIG applications, the Delta Weld power source when using "a
low energy argon mix" could now no longer provide low current, consistent arc
Note: A primary weld concern with MIG welding equipment is attaining sufficient
weld energy for the wire feed rate delivered. For example the slope output (volt
amp curve) is designed to provide a specific current for a given voltage. Also
the slope of the curve will determine the amount of weld current change per volt
important is the MIG Volt / Amp / Wire Feed / Weld Deposition relationship?
example, with a traditional, effective CV power source, when using an 0.035 wire
at 210 ipm, delivering 3.3 lb / hr, the CV power source would put out approximately
140 amps and require 17 welding volts. This weld parameter combination provided
both optimum LOW weld voltage and current for the short circuit wire feed rate selected.
If a power source designer changes the slope, lets say the required short circuit
weld voltage for that wire feed position is now 19 volts. As a result of the extra
voltage, the short circuit weld droplet size is now larger, more globular and
the short circuit weld transfer would be more erratic with excess spatter.
seems in their quest to add electronic bells and whistles, some MIG power source
designers forgot about the fundamental Arc / Slope and Wire Feed relationshipnecessary for optimum MIG weld transfer. When
a power source designer makes negative changes to a power source that for decades
has been perfect, one has to ask what is the weld equipment manufacturers motive?
[a] Is it weld process ignorance?
[b] Is the need to reduce the weld equipment cost?
[c] Is it
the need to add electronic bells and whistles to justify a future power source
Miller Weld Power Source Manager
"plays around " with the MIG weld
address the Delta Weld issues at the Omniquip (Sky
Trak) plant, I called in the Miller product manager for MIG equipment.
The Miller manager came to the Wisconsin plant to review the problems
with his companies revised Delta Weld equipment. I went through the problems and also went through
the wire feed range, pointing out the weld parameter, current / wire feed relationship
issues snd the differences between this equipment and his companies superior older Delta Weld 450 equipment.
talking to the Miller MIG product manager about the slope performance and
the necessary relationship between the wire feed and parameter setting, I noted the Miller manager had a glazed look. That glazed look is one I have seen many times as it was usually on my wifes face when I talked to her about welding.
Miller MIG power source product manager's response to my complaints was, "he had no problems
with the revised Delta Weld 450 power source, and reference the weld parameter / wire feed differences i had shown him, he could not understand my concerns, becuase when he makes welds he just "plays
around" with the weld controls till he finds a weld setting he likes.
the responsible Miller power source designer who made the changes check the revised Delta Weld parameter
output with the original unit?
Question. Did the engineers who built the new revised
Delta Weld equipment check the revised performance with all the common available
argon mixes before sending the equipment out to welding shops?
Question. Did the Miller management believe it was important to hire a MIG product manager who did not understand the MIG process, a man who had to "play
around" with the two simple controls on the MIG weld equipment.?
Question Did the Miller management believe that when they build products that their customers should test it.
A 2003. MILLER DELTA WELD 450 / 452 UPDATE.
Due to the poor welding performace of the KOBELCO MIG equipment thats usually found on MOTORMAN
ROBOTS, in 2003, I had to get one of my clients that uses the Motoman robots to switch over from the KOBELCO
350 MIG power source to a MILLER, DELTA WELD 452. The 452 is basically a 450 power source with a built in interface that can communicate with robots. The 452 unit I tested at this company provided excellant weld performance on this application, the performance that the < 1999 Delta Weld used to provide.
SOMEONE AT MILLER MUST HAVE BEEN TAKING NOTES AT THIS SITE AND QUICKLY MADE THE CORRECTION TO GET THE DELTA WELD PERFORMANCE BACK TO WHERE IT WAS. THEY DID NOT SEND A THANK YOU CARD.
MILLER INVISION 456MP
Miller. Invision 456MP.Electronics and Weld Mediocrity.
If you have nearly $6000 to waste on poor performance
and a poor slope out put, take a look at the Miller Invision 456MP. However If
you wanted to save well over $3000 you would bring in a Miller CP 302. Then spend
a few $ on my books and Cd process control training resources. With the lower cost Miller unit and process control expertise you will attain the weld quality and productivity you desire..
AUTO AXCESS 450.
think this next e-mail tells a great story about Miller and weld equipment Bells and Whistles:
The following is my experience and my frustration since owning 7 Miller Auto Axcess
450 machines for almost one year. My boss at Magna believes my job is to get the GM robot
welded parts out of the door without weld quality or production issues, however
with all the Miller issues I have had to put up with, I feel like less like a
robot technician and more like an unpaid Miller Weld Equipment Technician. Ed what
happened to the good old days when you switched the Miller DeltaWeld on and got
through the shift without welding the following issues?
We were told by Miller that their Accupulse would weld faster than traditional CV equipment
and produce less spatter, (i guess this is what happens when you listen to a salesman),
2) We set most
of the welds in "Accupulse mode" initially, a few welds used Short Circuit
we had gaps. The Accupulse welds were on parts that had good fit. While we used
optimum weld parameters and Miller's recommendations for the welds, we could not
keep the arc stable enough while running production. Almost half the welds coming
off the cell had ropey, unstable bead appearance, while the other 50% of the welds
with the same data were optimum however with small amounts of spatter. I was only traveling about 30 IPM
when using Accupulse.
3) We had excessive contact tip wire burn back issues when using Accupulse.
I could not get more than 2-3 hours of production without an arc fault due to
a wire burn back. We had lots of evidence of micro arcing on the weld wire.
4) To try and help stabilize the process and also
to reduce the tip burn backs, Miller sent us a custom Accupulse program twice.
Miller attempted to limit the peak current at the arc start to prevent the micro
arcing and tip burn backs. This never worked properly and I still had the burn back problems.
I have now updated core system software in these machines 3 times in the short time we have owned them.
6) Finally after taking your advice, I turned off the Accupulse to the CV mode. That Accupulse mode was daily costing Magna excessive production
downtime and extensive weld repairs on welds that were unstable.
When running in the traditional CV mode we were able to get the travel speeds
thirty percent faster 40 IPM than the Accupulse mode.
turning off the Accupulse mode completely, we were still having what we felt were
excessive robot cell stoppages due to Arc Faults and burn backs.
were getting intermittent "Wire Stuck Alarms" when we did not have wire
Miller's response to this was that there was
a timing issue between the robot and the welder causing erroneous nuisance alarms.
It may occur if the tip of the wire scrapes on the part after a weld was complete,
even though the robot was not stuck and on the way to its next weld or its home
position. Miller told me to disable this alarm to avoid nuisance occurrences.
10) We continued having excessive amount of "Arc Shortage Alarms"
on the Motorman XRC robots. The Arc Shortage alarms are things coming in from
the welder after getting a legitimate arc ignition. The welder was logging an
excessive amount of wire feed speed errors for no apparent reason. Each time the
welder felt it had a wire feed speed error; it would send an alarm to the Motoman
XRC causing the Arc Shortage alarms.
a) Miller ended up turning off the Wire
Speed Error alarms in the machine because they felt these alarms were nuisance
only causing excessive faults on the robots.
11) Miller was requested
for an on site visit to investigate the root cause of our problems.
While on site, they cold booted all of the welders to clear out any alarm occurrences.
They then verified that the most recent version of "Code" was in the
12) On a few machines I had the Inductance set to 60 on a 0-100
scale. Miller's default inductance setting is 30. I did this on short circuit
welds to get a better wetting action and better bead appearance. Miller decided
to set all the welders at an inductance of 30. They felt that a 60 inductance
may have been too high causing harsh arc starts. After turning the machines down
to 30 inductance, we had to change the arc start conditions in the robots and
reduce the start voltage. I had higher than normal starting voltages when using
60 inductance to prevent machine gun type starts.
13) Millers approach
to its numerous equipment issues was to bring in a new pulsed power source, the
Auto Axcess 300. My application is on 1.8mm and below down to 1.0mm. We are using
0.035 wire with a 92-8 Ar-C02 gas mixture.
Miller told me that the Auto Axcess 450 machines have a peak short circuit starting
current of around 700 amps. They felt that this was much too high for an 0.035
wire causing the micro-arcing conditions.
b) The Auto Axcess 300 machines
have a peak short circuit starting current of around 500 amps which they felt
would be better for welds done less than 200 amps using 0.035 wire.
Miller turned down the run-in settings to 50 IPM from the 250 IPM I had set. They
wanted the wire to run-in much slower while attempting to strike the arc. I started
at 100 IPM when we first bought them and tried various settings between 100 and
275 IPM with no real changes noticed.
d) Miller also set the wire retracts
at the end of the weld to 100 IPM for 0.2 sec. This is done at each arc off automatically
by the welder to ensure the wire is not touching the part at the next arc strike.
Miller Auto Axcess 450 has another core problem that I feel is definitely worth
mentioning. If you use multiple processes on the machine as I am sure many users
do, there is a software problem that causes harsh arc strikes, which will add
to the tip burn back problems. Essentially the problem is this; if you are doing
a pulse weld, and the next weld after that is a CV weld, the machine strikes the
arc in its last known process (which was pulse) and then switches to its new process
(which is CV). This switching cannot be preset in any fashion currently. Miller
asked me to actually try and do an Arc On in mid air during an air cut so the
next weld could have the proper schedule preselected. You can imagine the problems
in doing this. While the robot is moving, a "Hot" weld wire would be
enabled, and feed wire out at the run-in settings; it would have to see an Arc
Off prior to the timer for the Arc Fail alarms, and then you would have to retract
the wire before the next weld. I told Miller this was an unacceptable situation
and that I need a way to ensure the next weld is set properly without having to
do this. Miller is currently working on a fix for this in their next release of
"Code" which has not yet been released. At this time there are also
no factory preset programs for 0.035 Metal Core wires for CV, Pulse, Accupulse,
or RMD. I have asked them to provide me with those as soon as possible because
I am using 0.035 Metal Core wires. I am currently using Accupulse on a few welds
but had to select an 0.045 program and had to turn the Trim and Arc Control settings
way down on the machine to get the Arc Length down to a reasonable level. Much
of the development on these machines is done way after the product launch at the
customer's request. I feel that they should have had many of these things available,
and most of the other bugs worked out prior to releasing this welder to the consumers.
We are going to monitor the progress of the machines and continue to compare the
Auto Axcess 450 to the Auto Axcess 300. I will continue to monitor the progress
and see what happens. I don't appreciate being a test facility for the Miller
products. If new MIG welding power sources were designed and tested correctly,
why is it that the major weld equipment manufactures such as Miller, Lincoln Panasonic
etc. seem to be weekly revising the electronic circuit boards and programs in
their MIG welding equipment?
From Ed. Greg has the patience of a saint. I believe his company should have replaced
the MIG equipment with the 452 and taken Miller to court for the production costs invloved. Miller did not learn from this and keep in mind Magna is likely the worlds largest supplier of auto - truck parts. Scroll down to see that years later
the Miller Axcess fiasco continues.
Note from Ed. WANT
TO CUT DOWN ON WELD SHOP FRUSTRATION? DON'T BUY ELECTRONIC MIG EQUIPMENT TILL
YOU TEST THE HELL OUT OF IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE MODEL YOU PURCHASE HAS BEEN
AVAILABLE TO WELD SHOPS FOR AT LEAST 3 YEARS.
21-2007: E-Mail to Ed Craig.
I am a robot technician at a plant that manufactures lawn mowers. We normally
weld in the 170-230 Amp range. We had been using Miller DeltaWeld 452's on all
of our robot cells. The decision was made to replace these welders with the new
"high-tech" Miller AutoAxcess 350 which
has MIG, Pulse, and Miller's own "accupulse" processes. Since changing
to these new welders we have to change a lot of contact tips, mostly due to poor
arc starts. Miller reps have been back several times but we are still not seeing
the benefits from pulse welding that they promised. Any ideas.
First as you and I are not electronic engineers, you should consider setting your companies
lawyers on Miller for selling equipment that does not function correctly.
Perhaps your managers and engineers could also read some of the info at this site before
making important and costly MIG weld equipment and process decisions.
E-mail to Ed.
we have the Miller Axcess 450 in our our plant. Our latest Miller MIG equipment
fiasco. The gas solenoid just
quit working after welding a few parts. We could manually purge gas, weld 1-2
more parts and it would happen again. We originally thought it was in the Wire
Feeder or the Feeder Cable, but swapping them out did not fix the problem. We
replaced the Motor PC board inside the welder which actually turns the gas valve
on and off and still had the problem. Finally in the end we exchanged the entire
welder and the problem went away. We only own 7 of these welders and 1 is a spare
for emergencies. Of the seven, four have required us to replace PC Boards, these
units have not in service one year.
Ed. What's that old song that
has a line, "when will
they ever learn"?
having the same Miller Axcess problems in Spain 2008.
April 2008 MILLER AXCESS PROBLEMS. A note from Ed. This month I visited the west coast of Spain to
assist an auto plant that makes BMW and other car seats. The
plant had great success with their ABB robots and Miller Delta Weld equipment
which I had recommended to them five years ago.
The plant in 2008 ordered the
Miller Axcess for it's robot cells. Its first problems were arc start and contact tip issues. Sometimes 13 contact tips a shift were being changed. I knew that Miller
has known about this problem for at least three or four years and still has not
fixed the problem. My client wants to get rid of the new Miller Axcess, however
Miller adds to the problem by no longer making the Delta Weld equipment available
with a robot interface. By the way what a useless toy the Miller Palm pilot is,
its another tool that will ensure people waste the day "playing" around
with useless bells and whistles.
Aug. 2008. Ed in my Canadian company, we weld auto parts and use the Accu-Pulse,
Miller Axcess, 450 amp MIG unit with Motoman robots. Too frequently we get holes
in the end of the welds on the thin parts, and the weld end craters are extra
long. It seems like every afternoon I play around, (yes, I play around) with the
torch angles and wire , stick out, but still have not been able to solve the problem.
The bottom line is I get lots of complaints from the weld reworks guys. Do you
have any suggestions? Regards. Zhu. Weld Tech. Canada
Zhu, The crater and control of the weld end data has been an on going problem
for years with this equipment. I have devised unique programming and process solutions
for these issues. You will find them in package 4 of my robot process control resources.
Rememeber Miller is one of the better MIG weld equipment manufacturers, Yet with the apathetic Miller management in this time period, it seems they need years or decades before they respond to their MIG equipment issues, and usually without recalling their faulty products and rarely informing their customers The bottom line as its always been, the weld shops pay the price for the poor weld equipement produces. Boy I hope in the next life I can keep this weld expertise and be reborn as a lawer, because I know many companies that have lost millions due to weld equipement problems. Just to show you how long this Miller BS has been going on, take note of this Auto Axcess email in 2013.
Ed. We have had arc end weld issues with 2 Miller Auto Axcess 450 D.I's in a dual arm Motoman cell since the insallation. It seems the Auto-Axcess Sharp-Start routine is causing small explosions at the weld ends. These explosions can be heard and seen as little balls of molten metal shoot out of the cell at the arc ends and some times cause micro crater cracks little "snowman" looking eruptions that have to be ground off and manually repaired. We needed assistance se we called in the Miller rep.
When the regional Miller rep came to our plant he first blamed the weld wire. Then he blamed the gas mix, the gas flow rate, the weld voltage, wire feed speed and the wire stick-out. He then blamed the raw materials we were welding and then followed with we should change all the weld schedules from DC Spray Mig to AccuPulse. With nothing working for this joker, he finally he decided that thee smooth drive rolls on the metal-cored wire was the problem. More to the point, I asked repeatedly if he could turn off the Sharp-Start and auto burnback "features" he said we would have to talk with the Miller Engineer responsible for the Auto Axcess line.
Do you know what we need to do to disable these "special features" so I can use normal crater fill and burnback techniques? By the way we weld only 3/4" Hot-Rolled plate and its a railroad application. All the robot welds are in the 2F position, 3/8" single pass fillet.
The gas and voltage lets us burn through the mill scale pretty well and we have used these parameters for years in manual welding with regular CV equipment.
Our weld data is as follows.
Wire: Select-Arc Select 70C6 .062.
WFS: 330 IPM.
Flow Rate: 40 - 50 CFH.
Wire Stick-Out: 3/4 - 7/8
Travel Speed: 40 cm/min
Thanks In Advance. Jeff Christensen. Mfg. Eng. Progress Rail Services.
THE MILLER CONTINUUM.
USA 2015: Its 2015, in contrast to the lower cost, more durable Miller CV >350 amp CV unit that will cost approx. 50% less, we now in 2015 have the Miller Axcess evolution and its called The Continuum. With this so called advanced pulsed MIG unit, we have yet another Miller power source that could not provide me any real world weld benefits for the vast majority of steels, low alloy steels and stainless welds,
Don't waste money on bells and whistles, use these process control self teaching / training resources that cost $300, and instead of wasting money on that >$7000 advanced MIG power source, you can save $3000 and attain the same weld quality and productivity.
the hell has the weld current gone
Invision, XMT or Accupulse.
happens when you use
the regular short circuit or spray transfer MIG modes with this equipment? Inverters,
pulsed and multipurpose CC/CV MIG equipment typically provide a steeper slope
than traditional CV equipment, restricting the typical weld current output. The
current reduction from this equipment can result in sluggish welds (poor weld
fusion) or welders welding in the globular mode when they should be in spray transfer.
If using this equipment with low energy argon - oxy or argon < 9% CO2 mixes,
these gas mixes as you know require low weld voltages and will further lower the
potential weld current output.
ESAB Aristo 450. This multipurpose
pulsed inverter provides two different features worth evaluating. The
power source has a built in water circulator for water cooled guns. It also has
if you feel you need one, an "arc data monitor" The
Bottom line. This MIG power source provides good weld characteristics, however
for 99% of your welds you will never need most of the bells and whistles found
on this costly equipment.
MANUAL OR ROBOT WELD POWER SOURCES DO NOT REQUIRE
"ARC DATA MONITORS". WELD SHOPS HOWEVER DO REQUIRE WELD PERSONNEL WHO
HAVE WELD PROCESS EXPERTISE AND
WELD MANAGEMENT WHO BELIEVE IN EQUIPMENT OWNERSHIP, BEST WELD PRACTICES AND WELD
ABB Robots and ESAB Arcitec Weld Issues.
Welds on Ford
6061 Aluminum Car Seats.
2000, I was requested by an engineer at VAW a tier one supplier to analyze the
welding performance of their ABB robot and ESAB Arcitec welding equipment. This
plant produces extruded aluminum parts. The aluminum welded car seats were for
Ford. The car seats and parts required small welds which were made on thin gage
the installation of the robot cells, continuous production of optimum weld quality
parts has been impossible due to the issues documented in this report. Weld
reject rates averaged sixty percent and the robot down time per hour averaged
20 to 30 minutes. To see the rest of the story, click
Cleveland or the land of Lincoln.
The "Power Wave".
LINCOLN POWER WAVE ISSUES. It's only fitting that my last weld consulting job in the year 2000, would be working
with Lincoln pulsed MIG equipment at a GM plant in Ohio.
The job was simple. A new multi-million dollar production line set up to
automatically MIG weld torque converters. The weld problems generated on the lines
created, a 4 - 8 % leak rate from the 1000 MIG welded parts produced daily,
What I found interesting about the costly, high volume installation that had
two weld production lines using six Lincoln Power Wave power sources, the lines
were not yet in the full production mode, yet the plant engineers informed me
that four of the six Lincoln pulsed power sources had already been replaced.
days into my visit, after switching the erratic pulsed mode off, I used a different
wire size and set the torque converters welds to spray transfer mode. The weld
reject figure was reduced to "0%" and as a bonus I gave the GM plant
25 % more production. If
the lower cost, traditional, more durable Lincoln CV 400 power sources had been
purchased, the weld problems would not have occurred and several GM engineers
would today would have more respect for Lincoln and it's red welding equipment.
By the way when making those changes on the converter lines, not one GM manager
showed any interest.
E-mail sent to Ed Oct. 2002.
in the US in an automotive parts plant that manufactures components for a Japanese company. We continuously have problems with internal weld porosity.
The porosity is not visible from the outside of the weld but when you grind the
surface away the welds are full of it.
We are MIG welding the galvanealed
materials and we have exhausted all efforts to eliminate the porosity. We use
a Lincoln Power Wave 450 and have had Lincoln come in and try different pulsed
Wave Forms but they could not solve our problem. We have tried different wires
and use 90 argon 10% CO2. I believe that the galvanealed coating is contaminating
the weld, however it's a customer spec and cannot be changed. Any suggestions?
From Ed: Galvanealed coating rarely causes weld issues. Galvanized causes extensive
weld issues. You need more weld energy. Get of the pulsed. Increase the CO2 content
to 20 %. Use smaller weld wires 0.035, (greater current density). Use low end of Spray data when possible My training resources provide the resolutions for robot welding coated steel parts..
decades Lincoln lived on its SMAW weld equipment and consumable reputation. Lincoln
MIG welding equipment was rarely sophisticated, however it was usually durable,
low cost and typically always provided a few process performance irritations.
From my personal perspective, the Lincoln MIG equipment of the last two decades
was inferior to Miller, Linde (ESAB US) and Hobart MIG equipment.
The Lincoln ~~~~~Power Wave ~~~~ 455 / STT. This power source combines surface tension transfer (STT) with the pulsed Power
Wave characteristics. In other words two unique sets of bells and whistles for
the price of one. I have got to admit, I am fascinated by the hype that surrounds
the PowerWave, but not facinated by the performance. This
is a MIG package that along with the wire feeder can sell for more than $12.000,
or the price of a small car.
STT? If your company MIG welds carbon steels,
low alloy or stainless steels, and you don't weld a "root
pass on a pipe, with the pipe in the fixed position, then instead of spending
$12.000.00 on the Lincoln Power Wave / STT you could purchase a traditional 300
amp, CV power source from Lincoln or Miller, equipment that is 25% of the cost,
easier to operate and much more durable.
of what that salesman tells you, when used for welding steel parts,
the traditional lower cost, CV weld equipment in combination with a little weld
process expertise can produce the same weld quality and productivity as the $12.000.00
Lincoln Power Wave unit.
~~~ That Lincoln Power Wave~~~At the AWS welding show, while
visiting the Lincoln booth, I watched with amusement as a Lincoln rep, with his
computer attached to the Power Wave told the welding crowd, (these were mostly
guys who typically had not learnt how to control the fifty year old, two control,
CV power source) "that if they do not like the "Power Wave Waveform
Output" then we at Lincoln can use this computer with its unique software
change the pulsed waveform features to suit your specific welding application".
from Ed: First lets get
the "designer software"
that can change a MIG waveform
put put, BS out of the
way. If a weld equipment manufacturer provides you with a "pre-programmed"
pulsed power source set to weld carbon, stainless or aluminum applications, as
you will likely not be welding metals that fell of the side of a space ship, the
preset pulsed weld program should therefore be set to deliver optimum pulsed parameters
for a specific gas mix and electrode type and size.
all pulsed welds can be made with 4 weld settings, it's logical to assume that
any preprogrammed pulsed weld data from a pulsed power source manufacturer, should
be close to optimum.
the preprogrammed weld programs in the pulsed MIG equipment are not optimum, the
weld equipment manufacturer should replace the individuals responsible for setting
the substandard pulsed weld programs.
The bottom line, if welds on the
world's common steel MIG applications could be improved through playing around
with computer programs, the reality is that data should be part of the preprogrammed
guess many things have changed at Lincoln during its electronic renaissance, especially
when they found out that MIG equipment profits are greatly enhanced when electronic
bells and whistles are added to the MIG power source and wire feeders.
Nov. 8 2003.
Ed. I find that in
you are right on the mark. I have silently read much of what you have published here without response and sometimes I bite my tongue when the "salesman"
(as you would say) in me would love to send off a scalding e-mail.
my company does manufacture the Lincoln Power Wave 455 and many times, I have
seen first hand benefits to companies. I do not try and "sell"
a Power Wave 455 to people that do not need a Power Wave 455, which is one way
that I tend to agree with you. Many of my competitors in Detroit are pushing their
"bells and whistles" on to people to weld carbon steel applications
that can be tackled with a traditional CV 300 - 400 amp unit quite easily. One more thing,
to dispel any thought in your head about the manufacture of L-50 (and L-56) MIG
wires. These wires always have and always will be manufactured in Cleveland. Yes,
we make MIG wire in Taiwan, England, Mexico etc. but these wires are not branded
as L-50 (L-56) nor I will admot are they manufactured to the same standard as L-50 (L-56).
In order to compete with all of the foreign MIG wires out there, we created
"budget" brands that cost less to manufacture and therefore, cost less.
Keep it real Ed, I look forward to meeting you down the road.
with held FROM A Technical Representative at the Lincoln Electric Company - Detroit.
Craig. First allow me to say that I truly enjoy visiting your website. There are
always a multitude of informative articles to view. I am writing in regard to
a specific article you wrote that I just viewed today (5/10/07) entitled "The
Lincoln Power Wave, is Not Required For This Job". But first allow me to
say that I agree with your position on Pulsed Spray GMAW equipment and the common
mis-application of it. As a AWS CWI/CWE that provides training to manufacturers
throughout the region, I have run across many instances where manufacturers have
been sold the most innovative technology at a stifling price only to find out
after considerable cost in rework ,rejects and unacceptable welds that they could
have had superior quality in finished product by using conventional Spray or Short Circuit Transfer.
Having welded to ASME pressure vessel code for years using conventional
GMAW-Spray Transfer and conventional DCEN GTAW, I have difficulty
in supporting the pulsed technology trend, and even more difficulty understanding
why the blue and red suppliers alike are not doing a better job of explaining
the technology. Wouldn't have anything to do with increased weld equipment prices
or sales commission rates would it?
Name Withheld, May 2007.
Lincoln Pulsed MIG Power Wave and Ford Axle Cracks:
you want to make your weld manufacturing life more expensive, more complex and
less meaningful than it needs to be, you could always have listened to a salesman
and purchased the Pulsed Lincoln PowerWave for your robot welds.
-2000: My weld task appeared simple. American Axle a tier one manufacturer
located in Michigan ordered two ABB robot systems to weld truck axles. The company
I worked for supplied the robots, we were also responsible for setting up the
robot cells that would provide one million axle each year. When the robot cells were complete, as part of the contract, we were required
to provide a few hundred welded axles as part of the robot cell run off, little
did I know about the cracking issues that were about to occur as a result of the Power Wave. For the rest of
the story click here.
STT Good for some
root welds and not much else:
two pictures show part of the Lincoln STT wire feeder and power source. I could be wrong but I believe Lincoln's
price on the STT package with a few extras should be approx. $11,000 to $12,000.
Note: Lincoln advertises that on gage applications with STT you can eliminate weld spatter and
two, 300 amp traditional CV MIG equipment package as shown below that are available from Lincoln,
Miller and others. These CV units sell with their wire feeders for approx $3500.
Ref the Lincoln comment on STT and spatter on gage welds. With process control expertise, the majority of gage applications in the industrial world can be welded with controlled short circuit and produce SPATTER FREE welds utilizing the much lower cost, more durable CV MIG equipment (as shown in slow mo above). Also if you want pulsed on gage welds, in > 2006 and later years, you will be able to purchase much lower cost pulsed
MIG equipment than the STT.
With a little MIG weld process control - best practice expertise, low cost CV equipment will
get the job done to your satisfaction. Its up to you, if you have money to burn
you know where the fire is. If you weld parts less than 0.080 and you simply cannot
have miniscule weld spatter, then yes evaluate STT and the electronically modified
short circuit weld transfer modes like RMD and CMT, with the low cost (< $4000)
pulsed MIG equipment now sold by Miller (350P).
Ed we run a Lincoln CV 600. We are running an 0.035 (1 mm) wire
at 650 ipm and 28 - 30 volts. We use 90 argon 10 CO2 and are drawing about 200
amps. According to your books we should go into spray at >200 amps at > 420
inch/min, what's happening?
Answer. You have lost your current. If you note, on this power source you will
find a process switch that can be set at three settings.
 UPPER SETTING:
 Middle SETTING SAW - CV,
 LOWER SETTING. Self
If you use the stick (SMAW) setting you will
have selected a steeper slope which restricts the weld current. Use the SAW -
CV setting and you should be drawing 240 - 250 amps, which is correct for that
wire feed rate. Of course the power source could also require repair, or you may need
to replace a fuse at your 3 - phase supply.
a weld equipment manufacturer's rep informs you that their sophisticated MIG power
source has "unlimited weld parameter adjustment potential", please remember
first this is impossible and second this simply allows your workers to spend even more time "playing around"
with typically useless, unnecessary weld parameters and controls".
MIG WELD EQUIPMENT BECOMES MORE SOPHISTICATED, THE POWER SOURCE MANUFACTURERS
APPARENTLY DO NOT SEEM TO CONCERNED THAT THE WELDING EQUIPMENT IS ALSO BECOMING
MORE COMPLEX, MORE COSTLY TO REPAIR AND LESS DURABLE.
Ed. We have a Lincoln PowerWave and are having what Lincoln calls
a "Birds Nest" problem. This is an intermittent problem but when they
do occur, at various locations in the weld paths, they begin with an Arc 18 arc
failure alarm, followed by the wire continuing to feed momentarily, doubling over
on itself inside the weld gun conduit and jamming up the guide. We checked our
lost arc detect interval in our weld system setup; it is set at the factory 0.25
The billion dollar Lincoln
Electric company with all it's engineers and product managers was not sure what the problem was, so they have been having us do their work for tham and swap out components
in an elimination process to isolate the cause. Of course the fact that the power source was not welding for our company was of little concern to Lincoln who never made an offer of compensation.
First we replaced the wire feeder
cable. Then we replaced the wire feed unit itself. Now they think we should have
our Power Wave power source looked at, since the problem persists.
Ed dDo you have any suggestions
on what can be causing this problem and how we should best deal with it? The snarls
never used to happen;
it is a recent thing in the last couple of months. Sincerely.
For a weld
power source that has more weld issues than an Enron balance sheet, you know what
my answer to this problem would be. By the way if those that purchase weld equipment would spend less time talking to salesmen and more time on sites like this you would not have been having these problems.
The question today in 2015
Does the weld shop want a MIG power source that is electronically sensitive to many issues, or would the weld shop rather have a power source that is easily controlled and provides consistent weld performance.
THOSE THAT ARE IMPRESSED WITH BELLS AND WHISTLES,
LINCOLN MAY HAVE
PRODUCED WITH THE POWERWAVE, THE ULTIMATE WELD
GAME , SORRY POWER SOURCE.
As I write this
in 2008, the Lincoln Power Wave is now one of the biggest selling robot power sources
sold to the North American automotive industry. Most auto - truck
plants believe that costly, sophisticated weld equipment with extensive bells
and whistles will provide the solutions to their hands off management / engineering
It's a pity the managers and engineers who selected this equipment,
did not spend a few dollars and get a weld process control education. It will be even more
of a pity the first time they see the frequent issues that the Power Wavet has generated and with
the high repair costs it will require
Forms: While on the subject
of pulsed, let me quote from a Lincoln article on the Waveform in the Welding
Journal, Jan 2000 edition. The Lincoln author states, "that the waveform
in it's equipment is the means for determining the performance characteristic of a single molten
droplet of electrode. The area under the waveform determines the amount of energy
applied to that single drop. The Lincoln author continues with this statement
which every weld shop decision maker has been holding his breath waiting for three decades to hear, "superimposed in a selective fashion
over the waveform is the "adaptive" characteristic of synergic pulsed
1980 picture is a slow motion shot of regular, "spatter free" MIG transfer in the
glob to spray transition zone. Do you
really believe that all the electronic sophistication mentioned is necessary for
controlled drop - stream weld metal transfer from the MIG wire tip to the weld?
any low cost MIG power source, built in the last 40 years, set it with spray parameters
and watch it provide controlled, spatter free weld metal transfer.
Still not convinced? For god's sake, like the guy on the right, I could also take two
car batteries and with the 24 volts create a power source to form a decent MIG weld on some welds. Also a point
that many seem to forget. Most traditional >300 amp CV MIG power sources manufactured
in the USA, from 1960 can produce a MIG or flux cored weld that would meet the most stringent weld
code requirements anywhere in the industrial world.
~~PULSED WAVES UNDER THE BRIDGE~~.
Feb. 2004, I just spent a few days with a bridge builder. This company had
two robot cells for welding bridge decks and frames. On the one side an ABB robot
was utilized with Miller Delta Weld equipment, the other robot cell utilized Fanuc
robots with the Lincoln Power Waves.
The robots and MIG equipment was purchased
in the late 1990s. The steel, short length, 1/4 (6 mm) fillet welds made by the the
Miller equipment required minimal weld repairs, and the weld repairs that were required
were a usually a result of the part fit not from the weld process.
contrast in the robot cell containing the Lincoln Power Wave, the MIG weld rework for two years
had been over fifty percent. When evaluating the weld performance of both cells, I came to the following weld
FANUC ROBOT ISSUE. The Fanuc cells were supplied with through arc weld tracking. Due to the inconsistency
and poor performance of this equipment the bridge company had turned the arc tracking
off. To compensate they made the welds much larger and longer than the weld spec
POWER WAVE ISSUE: When evaluating the Lincoln power source, I found the Power Wave weld current
variation on a weld 2 inches long, varied from 170 amp to
300 amps, with the same welds you could also note a two volt weld variation.
This parameter instability from the power source, has dramatically impacted what
should have been a simple weld application. This application required through
the arc weld tracking, however it's not logical to try to utilize through the
arc weld tracking when the MIG power source cannot provide relatively stable weld
voltage or current on an application with a constant wire stick out.
POWER WAVE ISSUE: The crater control on this unit was very poor. The robot / Power Wave data did
not start to react till more than a second was added and even then the crater
welds with optimum weld data, at best would be described as erratic. On bridge
welds, if you cannot control the weld craters you have to compensate and make
the welds longer.
POWER WAVE AND FANUC ROBOT ISSUE: The weld arc on time on the application in the Fanuc cell accounted for more than
85% of the total cycle time. Due to the lack of effective through arc tracking
and unstable weld conditions twice the amount of weld required was used for the
bridge platform welds. The bottom line this weld equipment has caused the bridge
manufacturer to utilize three shifts to do work that could have been done in less
than 2 shifts. To resolve the weld issue the bridge company will for its next
robot installation make sure it has stable weld equipment (not from Lincoln) and
the robot has an effective through the arc tracking unit.
at GM Pontiac MI.
we are a GM plant in MI. I have about 50 Fanuc Robots all using Lincoln Power
Waves pulsed MIG equipment. We weld using an 0.045 (1.2 mm) silicon bronze wire
and argon gas. The 0.045 wire feed rate is 240 inch/min with 24V.
The robot welds are
made on galvanealed thin gage parts. The robots were purchased around 2001 and
2002. In the last 6 months some of the Power Waves have extensive burnt backs
to the contact tip for no logical reason. The burn backs occur any where in the
welds. We have changed liners, the guns and tips. We even changed the power source.
The good Lincoln Power Wave power source we have would also start to do the same
thing when placed in the cell where the burn backs occur. We have had all the
experts in and got no help including Lincoln, what do you think? Dave
As you are using short circuit wire feed rate for the silicon bronze 045 wire
it's a pity your organization did not purchase the much lower cost Lincoln CV
400, you would have saved around $250,000.00 and avoided these power source electronic
problems. Also this problem is already delt with at this site.
 I am amazed that Lincoln
or Fanuc did not help you as this appears to be a power source issue, however
I guess your 36 month warranty is up. Yes burn backs can occur frequently if wire
restriction issues occur, as you changed the guns and tips and checked the weld
wire feed ability, that should rule that out.
Are you using an external volt sensing (VS) lead? if so check continuity.
If the volt sense lead is OK, its likely the power source is causing the issues.
Disable the VS lead. I have found that artificial intelligence (looped electronic
feed back of the weld data) with pulsed equipment can be unstable even with new
pulsed equipment and that the instability can increase with the aging electronics,
(especially once the 36 month warranty is up). This problem in my simple mind, is
the power source technology is beyond the capability
of the power source mfg. I believe to disable the VS, a jumper lead has to be
moved in the power source, this is supposed to only take 10 minutes.
If disabling the VS did not work, then in the robot pendant disable both the arc
start and wire burn back functions as these functions have been known to influence
weld performance and produce erratic results. To displace this preset power source
weld data use separate weld schedules at the arc starts / ends.
start. Use one to two volts higher than weld volts.
 Arc end. Use one
to two volts less than weld volts.
 Your 24 weld volts for this application
also sounds too high. For short circuit an actual weld voltage (indicated on the
power source volt meter of 16 to 19 volts would be typical. For pulsed around
 If using a laptop provided weld schedule / program, change
to a standard power source program. Try the 045 standard short circuit mode for
steel / stainless. Its a pity your 36 month warranty is just up, what's that song?
"when will they ever learn"
See Lincoln issues above, and thanks
to Greg Smith at Marada for his contribution. Greg also had to go through many
frustrating issues with his Lincoln Power Wave equipment.
NEXT TIME YOU WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON "WAVE FORMS" I WOULD MAKE SURE IT'S AT THE POOL OR BEACH.
have had extensive experience with the Lincoln Power Wave on many robot applications.
I would rather not repeat the experiences. My advice to anyone looking at a Power
Wave, consider instead the $2000 to $4000 traditional Lincoln CV units and use
the thousands of dollars saved for a cool vacation. If you need a power source to hook up to a robot unfortunately I believe that Lincoln does not offer a low cost CV unit with a seperate Interface panel, so you then have to take that leap into the Lincoln waves,
PULSED WELD PICTURE IS WORTH AT LEAST A THOUSAND WORDS.
The next two picture are are two 3/16 (5mm) fillet welds I made on 1/4 (6mm) stainless steel.
The welds were made with a Lincoln 300 Power MIG. This power source is single phase, pulsed
MIG power source that retails around $3,700 . The Lincoln 300 power source has pre-scheduled
pulsed programs for specific wire diameters. This MIG power source was purchased
by a company that welds steel and stainless parts. The MIG wire is an 0.035 - 308L
stainless wire. I set the 0.035 (1mm) wire feed at 550 ipm which should be an
optimum pulsed wire feed rate. The power source provided the preset pulsed parameters.
I simply had to set the trim weld voltage to attain the optimum arc length. The
welds were untouched after welding. Take note of the pulsed weld appearance and
also the heat affected zone.
pulsed power source
with pulsed mode switched on.
Lincoln pulsed power source
off the pulsed mode and this 3/16 stainless, traditional spray transfer fillet
weld was made with the same power source, consumables and wire feed rate as the
pulsed weld. As you can see the HAZ is similar, this weld had similar spatter
and similar surface. My point is simple, there is nothing special about either of these two welds, however, why pay an additional $15,00.00 for something
you don't need to weld steel or stainless parts? Why pay for something that adds to
the weld complexity, something that is less durable and more costly to repair?
Oct 2008: : Ed I recently bought a new Lincoln
350MP, for pulse welding 18 ga aluminum. At first my new unit performed OK
then the problem started, while welding 18 gage, my weld would flare up the wire
back into the nozzle. The machine is rated to weld 19 ga. I got the supplier to
exchange my machine for another one, which has the same problem, it flares just
as bad on 1/8th alum. I have a push-pull gun, and the wire feeds fine. I'm running
the machine on 50ft multi-strand cable, two 50 amp breakers. My friend is going
to help me check out the electricity. Lincoln and the supplier have been no help,
I don't have a clue, and I don't know what to do. Adam
Reply:Adam as you are using a push pull gun
with this multi-purpose, Lincoln pulsed on pulsed, chopper technology I rule out
wire feed issues. The fact that you purchased a multi-purpose power source and,
these units are rarely noted for optimum MIG performance especially at low end
or high end parameter ranges.You are welding very thin gage that requiries low,
stable pulsed parameters and Imn sure the 50 foot cable does not help. Your weld
problem sounds like you don't have enough voltage and current available to sustain
a consistent pulsed arc. Low, erratic pulsed parameters would cause the pulsed
arc plasma to collapse causing the arc to wonder or occasionally flare. I have
said many times at this site, that instead of being impressed with bells and whistles
and the wave forms, chopper and pulsed on pulsed marketing verbage, check out
the equipment, especially the recommended low and high end welding range. The
bottom Line when the same problem occurs in two new power sources, you have an
equipment design or part problem. This is Lincoln's problem, not yours. As they
are not likely to recall the equipment, and you have wasted enough of your time
on this issue, send the power source back. The Miller 350P appears to have a good
pulsed low end, give it a try. Ed
YOU PURCHASE MIG EQUIPMENT BELLS AND WHISTLES, DON'T EXPECT REAL WORLD RESULTS:
Lets face it the biggest attribute about some of the Lincoln equipment, may be
the marketing names applied to the specific options and weld transfer modes. Chopper,
pulsed on pulse, wave forms, all sound impressive and I am sure help in the sale
of the in the equipment. The real question is does the technology in question
perform in a consistent stable manner and do the resulting weld transfer modes
provide real world benefit for the application..
a pulsed equipment manufacturer to show his pulsed technology is superior, we
are going to hear some wonderful pulsed equipment gibberish presented in the next
decade. In 2009, expect a tremendous amount of new marketing induced bovine fecal
matter to be presented on how advanced electronics will further influence the
pulsed weld droplet size, shape and energy etc.
in an industry that too frequently has to rely on sales brochures and weld sales
expertise to resolve it's weld issues, there are many welding customers that are
ready to believe the pulsed MIG equipment sales hype. Also lets face weld reality.
Weld distributors have never made much profit selling Lincoln equipment, a product
line which now appears to be available in just about every hardware store in North
believe the high price of the Power Wave is it's greatest feature, and that feature
benefits Lincoln and it's weld distributors more than it will benefit most weld
Be very wary of the JAPANESE Motoman 350 MIG Power Source,
it's a sad excuse
for a a welding piece of equipment
you use Motoman robots, it's unfortunate that you may have purchased the Japanese
built 350 MIG equipment. If you want a poor to mediocre, inconsistent, welds this quipment will provide it.
two separate locations during 2003 I have had issues with the Motoman equipment. In Aug.
2003 it was my unfortunate task to optimize a large welding cell that utilized
Moto Man UP6 robots with the 350 welding equipment. One of the new power sources
was so erratic it had to be replaced. On the remaining equipment I found inferior
arc starting characteristics, inconsistent weld transfer and the required voltage
range was excessive resulting in globular type transfer.
in 2003 I assisted one auto supplier of thin parts with his numerous robot weld
issues. The parts were 1.2 mm thick, the weld wire was 035 - 1 mm. The weld mode
selected was short circuit. I noted again with the Motor Man MIG equipment that
at the required low wire feed short circuit settings that the minimum stable weld
voltage required from this equipment was 1 to 3 volts higher than that which would
have been required with the traditional North American CV equipment.
required, higher weld volts from this inferior Japanese MIG equipment caused ERRATIC
"globular transfer" and the additional voltage provided higher weld
energy which added to the "weld burn through potential" on the thin
LETS CHAT FOR A MOMENT ABOUT Controlled
weld droplets or a stream of weld metal cascading into the molten metal we like to call a weld?
I have a question for thos of you that dont have a life and still reading.
Do you believe that when you water your
lawn the grass will be greener if the water is pulsed when it leaves the hose?
is an issue for most welds is the weld energy delivered. The bottom line, pulsed
can produce in some instances a lower energy open arc weld mode. Therefore to
justify purchasing pulsed equipment look for a weld application that requires
the heat concerns, such as clad welding or welding aluminum;
[a] Pulsed provides lower weld energy than traditional spray transfer. However if
you are aware of all the wire feed and voltage settings that can produce spray
transfer with the different wire diameters, you can often replicate the pulsed
weld energy with spray transfer and a smaller diameter MIG wire.
[b] Pulsed can provide weld spatter levels to an absolute minimum. If spray transfer
is set correctly the weld spatter amount will be minuscule.
[c] Pulsed is beneficial on alloy electrodes that typically provide poor weld transfer,
electrodes such as alum bronze. A real pulsed benefit.
equipment I Would Not Recommend.
If you have a robot purchase in mind the following power sources are
personally would not recommend in 2008.
The Lincoln Power Wave. This welding unit "will often take
you where you don't need to go, restrict you where you should not be restricted,
and make you pay a price you don't need to pay. With this power source in your
robot cell it would be wise to make sure you have a spare. For optimum manual
or robot carbon / stainless MIG welds stick with the Lincoln CV 400 amp power
 The Lincoln Ideal ArcThis
multi-purpose unit provides mediocre MIG performance.
 The Panasonic HM Units. <2004 units. If Panasonic thinks this is a solution to North American welding problems
they should fire their so called Japanese welding experts. If you purchased Panasonic
pulsed equipment before 2004 god
help bless you.
The ABB/ESAB Arcitec. Sold as a
built in with ABB robots. This erratic, poor performance power source introduced
in the nineties must have put Swedish weld manufacturing technology back two decades.
For more information on this "unique" welding equipment you know where
to find me, and I won't be in Stockholm.
Miller Maxtron. It's hard to understand how a company with Miller's
reputation would want to place this machine into any welding shop.
Miller Invision. Inconsistent
performance, sold before it was ready for weld shops.
Thermal ArcMIG equipment. Erratic electronics and poor
/ spray arc characteristics at high / low data.
Kemppi.I do not
like the performance or durability of their MIG equipment.
Transfer can be so simple. With traditional CV MIG equipment,
an argon mix and two simple weld parameter settings, you can produce weld droplets
as shown in this video, or turn the wire feed rate up and create a weld stream
at higher current and voltages. Its
true that with spray transfer, the weld droplets are not "individually controlled"
but who cares, as long as they transfer into the weld in
a stable manner, inside a suitable plasma. And if you want more or less
MIG energy from CV equipment,
[a] change the wire feed rate,
[b] change the welding voltage,
the wire size or type,
[d] use a different gas mix.
[e] change the wire
open arc transfer such as pulsed MIG and spray transfer, its not that important
on how the weld wire converts to molten metal, what is important is that the molten
metal transfers in a consistent, stable manner. A CV MIG power source has had
this capability since the nineteen sixties.
MIG WELDS ON PARTS > 3 mm WILL PROVIDE MARGINALWELD
correct spray weld parameters, the traditional spray transfer is stable and almost
completely spatter free. Yes traditional spray transfer is hot, but as most MIG
welds have marginal weld fusion this is a weld benefit not a weld detriment.
The primary issue with most spray welds is insufficient side wall fusion,
there fore there is little logic to utilize pulsed and reduce the potential weld
the end of the day, the following may be the best justification why pulsed MIG
will one day soon be the world's number one MIG welding process.
welding distributor if lucky may make 10 to 20% on a traditional $3000, CV. MIG
power source / wire feed equipment package. In contrast on that $6000 to $12,000
pulsed equipment package which produces no more weld productivity and no better
weld quality on most steel welds, that additional profit will certainly be an
incentive for both the weld equipment manufacturer and distributors. And lets
face it, with the short pulsed equipment life, well that's just a bonus to the
MIG equipment manufactures who repair and sell this equipment.
have to have a sense of humor if you
weld carbon - low alloy steels,
and you spent more than $4000 for that Pulsed MIG power source.
Did you visit page one of this section?
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