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Panasonic welding equipment issues
and lack of weld process expertise:

The company I visited welds 6xxx series, extruded aluminum, thin gage parts. They had purchased a Panasonic VR OOGAL 11robot, with a Panasonic 350 amp Panastar RA 350 pulsed power source.

For the welds they used a 0.046, 4043 wire and argon. The MIG wire spool was mounted on top of the robot, and they used a regular four-drive roll feeder with a standard water-cooled gun.

The problem robot welds were short lengths 5/8 to ¾ long. The robot welds are made on aluminum square tubes 0.070 thick. The 6xxx tubes are welded to a thicker alum part 3/16 thick. Since they purchased the robot the completed welds never look consistent over their short lengths. All the thin tube welds were made with the same weld data, yet in the same locations on the parts, some welds look fluid while other welds look cold.

Most of the welds ended up with a black and dirty appearance yet the push gun angle is correct. These welds caused so many issues the company was ready to give up the robot and go back to manual GTAW.

The reason the company purchased this robot, is the owner of the company took some sample alum parts to the AWS weld show. At the show a Panasonic rep impressed the owner by producing some “manual weld samples". On these samples the welds were approx. four to six inches in length. In the 12 months since this company purchased the robot, they have never produced a part with welds that look as good as the weld show samples.

Panasonic experts and and the robot integrator personnel spent many weeks at this company and they did not resolved the welding issues or provide an analysis of the cause.


After evaluating the equipment, process and application, I optimized the weld data and then found the primary problem to be with the Panastar, RA 350, pulsed power source and its response time with the robot. A factor few power source manufacturers rarely give consideration to is response time. This is a critical element on robot welds in which the weld cycle times are less than 3 seconds.

It takes time for a robot interface to communicate to a MIG power source. The robot interface has to inform the power source of the required, weld start data which then needs “time” to change to the weld data, which then needs time to figure out and stabilize the pulsed data, after which time is required for a diagnostic check and time to change to the weld end data.

In the days when Panasonic was struggling to make a pulsed power source that could actually provide consistent pulsed welds (see MIG equipment and pulsed sections), the response times of communication between the power source and robot may not have been a priority concern for Panasonic.

From the weld perspective aluminum is unique in that time is also required with the weld for the MIG arc plasma to break the aluminum surface oxides and provide an oxide free area for the weld. Also because of the conductivity of aluminum it takes a specific amount of time for each weld (depending on the heat in the part) for the aluminum to become fluid so the weld can proceed.

The pulsed aluminum weld issues were generated simply because the short weld lengths (very short cycle times) and welding thin 0.070 to thicker 3/16 parts. The weld cycle time was lower than the time required for this Panasonic robot / interface power source to respond and there was not sufficient weld energy generated in this thin to thick part to remove the aluminum surface oxides.

Note The longer weld lengths produced manually at the weld show simply did not address the short weld length / time issues.

This was one of those applications that was very frustrating for me as I quickly diagnosed the problems, however the existing Panasonic equipment was not capable of meeting the weld requirements and without a change to the weld equipment, there was no weld instant resolutions.

[] One could ask why did this customer buy a robot without have the parts first welded with a robot?.

[] One could ask why did this customer have a manual weld done that had nothing in common with the robot welds?

[] One could ask why did the Panasonic experts not immediately recognize that the issue was with their equipment and offer to change the power source to one that would meet the weld requirements?


Weld process note: When welding with a robot, if possible do not use a small spool of aluminum wire when you can use a large reel that provides a wider cast and less helix issues. This is really important on small weld sizes and small weld lengths. The Alco Tec de-reeler or similar product is the most practical method of feeding wire to a robot. Alco Tec is also a premium quality aluminum MIG weld wire. For many applications the dee-reeler, and >0.046 wire can be used without a push pull gun. Also you do not need to purchase a water cooled gun for any welds less than 25 mm in length


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